Saturday, January 10, 2009

There's Something About She-hulk



I've been thinking about Valerie D'Orazio's post about supporting women superhero comics and the related fallout to Josh's Tyler's anti-Female Superhero rant. In regards to Josh's post (and film in particular) all I'll really say is that Female superhero movies have generally sucked. They have been poorly written, poorly designed, and poorly produced. So I don't think laying the whole thing at the door of the Female superhero trope is really fair. When a Male superhero movie bombs we don't say the whole concept of the male superhero is dead, we just say "they" didn't get the character and made a bad movie. I submit that Hollywood in general doesn't know how to make a good female superhero film and certainly doesn't know how to attract a female crowd.

When it comes to comics I think there is somthing to the fanboys not buying into and simply not buying female superhero comics. But I'm not all fanboys... I'm just me and I can only speak to my personal habits.

As women heroes concern me, it would seem, superficially, that I'm not one that really supports the "girl characters" all that much other than drooling over the occasional stacked drawing but if I look closer a few things do pop out namely She-Hulk... and I guess, Red Sonja.

To be honest I wasn't totally into She-Hulk from the beginning. I found her interesting when I first encountered her in the Avengers but it wasn't until John Byrne got ahold of her that I became a fan of Jennifer Walters. I can't say I was a consistent fan but I always maintained a fondness for Shulkie since her FF days. As for Red Sonja I'll cop to some good old male horndogness, but I also really like the idea of a female warrior in the vain of Conan. In fact, the idea of Red Sonja has a lot of power for me because I'm still following the Dynamite Entertainment title despite the beef I've had with a lot of the plotting.

But is that really it? Is that all the stock I put in female characters? Well maybe when it comes to DC I think so. I've never been very compelled to pick up any of the gal books by the Distinguished Competition. A lot of this reflects my disinterest the DC Universe. The Marvel characters just always seemed richer, deeper and absolutely a lot cooler (not in the last several years though). Sadly marvel had less books featureing gal heroes in the 80s and so there wasn't much women stuff except for team books... and I sure did loves me some female heroes in my X-men (Storm, Shadowcat, etc). There's a few random mini-series in there too like firestar...

Outside of superheroes I've picked up Love and Rockets, and Strangers in Paradise...


...Uh, Strangers in Paradise? OK kiddies, this post has officially gone off the rails. I'm not even sure what I'm talking about here. So I'll just wrap up by saying when it comes down to it, I've thrown my lot in with She-Hulk for better or worse. She just has that certain something that other characters don't seem to have...


Green Skin?



-Swinebread

7 comments:

Arkonbey said...

Strangers in Paradise? I've never read it, but Francine is a cutie. Liv Tyler in Hulk reminded me of her.

Hypatia said...

I'd agree, it's not that female superheros are bad, how Hollywood/DC/Marvel produces them is.

Personally, I find the whole "Maryjane died from Peter's radioactive spooge" storyline totally ridiculous..but nobody says Spiderman is ridiculous.

That's why Love & Rockets, Luba, Promethea and other alternative titles,give much better treatment of female characters...

Hypatia said...

PS: Joss Whedon has made quite a killing with strong female characters..(Buffy, River etc.)

In fact, he specializes in them...

so Josh Tyler can suck Whedon's *you-know-what* since he seems incapable of imagining a well written, well produced comic hero story with a female lead.

Dean Wormer said...

Just to add to what Hypatia said- Whedon's got quite a few comics to his name besides Buffy and Serenity.

Don Snabulus said...

Nobody ever topped Little Lulu. NOBODY!!!!!!!!!!!

Arkonbey said...

speaking of female heroes, I think that old WW has been getting the short shrift for years. She need a good writer and an artist not interested in boobs.

Alan Davis did good things with Psylocke before Marvel US turned her into an asian ninja. Megan was pretty good, too.

Promethea was a good story, but the art, imho, was lacking.

pidomon said...

Arko
Loved the art in Promethea but thats the great thing about art i guess we all see something different and no one is worng or right!

And WW does need something. As much as I like Gail Simone and feel she's doing an ok story right now to me WW is the toughest character at DC to write