Thursday, April 24, 2008

My New Comics


This week’s best cover is She-Hulk #28.


Fall of Cthulhu #11, Boom Studios. ‘Narly

Shadowpact #24, DC Comics. Some extraordinary gentlemen join the fight?!

She-Hulk #28, Marvel Comics. Her “buddy” gets a shot to the head! Hey, the cover is different than that which was solicited.

Army of Darkness / Xena #2, Dynamite Entertainment. Both Autolycus and Ash… Groovy!

Northlanders #5, DC Comics/Vertigo. This keeps improving


Trade Paperbacks:
The Mammoth Book of Best Horror Comics Vol. #1, Running Press. B&W Reprinting of over 60 classics of the 1950’s that caused a furor in the US and sparked legislation to crack down on explicit horror, this volume also includes modern contributors. How Cool is that!





-Swinebread


When the enemy gets to the cooks you know it's all over...




-Swinebread

Tuesday, April 22, 2008

Crisis On Infinite Earth Days



Earth Day 2008 has arrived. We don’t have infinite earths to use up and we don’t have infinite time to clean up our mess. Even simple changes in one's daily life can have a huge impact. The recycling motto is something we should all keep in mind: Reduce, Reuse, Recycle.

Do your best to live in harmony with nature.


-Swinebread

Saturday, April 19, 2008

Portland Comic Book Show... April '08

Hey guys I think it’s this way!

First off let me apologize for the tardiness of this post. I was ill and I was also quite busy with the random mundanities of the past workweek. Anyhoo… I had a wonderful time at the show despite my mammoth dislike of the dungeon… er… space that the PCBS is held in. I haven’t been this excited about a comic event in a while. I think it had something to do with the fact that Tony DeZuñiga and Stan Sakai were going to be there. I don’t really go to conventions to buy comics anymore except for the occasional stumble upon. It’s the creators that I’m really interested nowadays. I was also looking forward to seeing Heidi and James Meely too. I did have a nice chat with James, but sadly Heidi didn’t happen to be around when the spouse and I strolled by the space goat table.

As you can see from the top pic, the Star War costume folks were there again and I’m sure they’ll be regulars at the comic shows from now on as they’re local yokels. It’s kinda weird for me because it’s a new thing here in Portland but the kids seem to like it and heck it’s a small convention so why not. What was interesting this time around was the fact that a female Stormtrooper made an appearance. She had… ah… um… a specially adapted breastplate so to speak. I didn’t get a picture of her as she walking in as I was leaving, maybe next year.


Kieron Dwyer

The first table I stopped by was Kiron Dwyer’s. He was a really laidback, approachable kinda guy. Part of my comic collection is stashed away at a relative’s house, so I didn’t have time to grab any back issues for him to sign, but I did have Shadowpact #20 on hand. Kiron had the original pages for Shadowpact #20 for sale. They were stunningly illustrated, but at seventy-five to hundred bucks a pop I just couldn’t afford any of them. The guy has gotta make a living, so Kiron’s prices were reasonable from a market standpoint but alas from a Swinebread budget standpoint they weren’t. One thing I realized from perusing the original art pages was that I like Kiron Dwyer’s art much better in black and white.


Ernie Chan

It was wonderful to meet Ernie Chan. He was sketching away at his art board as I approached his table, which was laid out with all kinds of glorious drawings of Conan and Red Sonja. As I was fumbling with getting my Conan trades outta of their bags, another fan walked up and just handed him an issue of Savage Sword of Conan and told him to keep it and not bother paying for it. Obviously this exchange related to a previous discussion between the two, but Ernie was pleasantly taken aback by this fan’s generosity. When it was my turn, I thanked him profusely for coming to Portland and then promptly dumped five trades on him for signatures (Chronicles of Conan 10-14). I told him how much I enjoyed his artwork and shook his hand (again) before I left, saddened that again I couldn’t afford an Ernie Chan original.


Alex Niño

Here’s Alex Niño! He’s an artist that really found his nitch in Warren’s b/w horror comics and Heavy Metal. Again, I didn’t have my whole collection on hand so I only had one thing for him to sign but it’s a doozey the 30-page Conan the Barbarian tale, "People of the Dark." This story had recently been reprinted in Savage Sword Vol #1 trade. If only there were some trades out there with his Warren work.


Tony DeZuñiga

Well, I finally got around to meeting Tony DeZuñiga and his lovely wife Tina. He was sitting there looking too cool for school even though he’s about sixty-one and he was wearing an odd fur-like vest that he somehow made look chic, kinda like Jonah Hex’s Confederate garb. He had a calm demeanor like poker player in a gin joint.

Tony was very friendly and was happy to sign my comics. I had him autograph issues 5 & 9 of the new Jonah Hex series, the Conan story “Demons of the Summit” reprinted in the Savage Sword of Conan collection Vol 1 (same one Alex Niño signed!), and the Showcase Presents Jonah Hex trade. When Tony saw the Showcase Hex he remarked that I was the only person that had brought a copy for him to sign. That struck me as a tad bit sad. I thanked him for coming to Portland and told him that I hoped he’d get a chance to try the fantastic beer here in the Rose City. Tony made me laugh when he told me he was surprised because he thought it was going to be raining. I said back that he and his fellow artists had brought along the sunshine.

He had some amazing hand drawn pieces laid out on his table. My tongue practically hung out while I flipped trough the beautiful pages in his portfolio. There was an amazing Red Sonja illustration that I wished to high heaven that I could have bought it. Oh well, maybe I can save up for a commission. It was a great experience meeting him.


Art Thibert

I eventually had a chance to get something singed by Art Thibert, as he had the biggest crowd around him all day. It was funny because some emo guy before me was bitching about the fact that the convention flyer didn’t have everything Art had done listed. Here was this dude that just had a huge stack of comics signed and then he had the nerve to complain that he didn’t get even more autographed, amazing. Anyway, Art scribbled his name across my smallish stack. I went through my standard schpeal welcoming him to Portland and asking if he had had a chance to try the beer. His buddy Rich Birdsall (on the right in the pic) piped up, “oh yeah he tried a lot of the beer last night, and he’s still feelin’ it today.” Art responded that he was having a great time in Portland and that he couldn’t believe how friendly the girls here were. He got a dreamy look on his face as he thought about his time at a nameless bar the night before. Heh heh, now there’s a story there…


PGX

Did you know there is a comic grading company here in Oregon? No? Neither did I. But apparently CGC has some strong competition by the likes of Professional Grading Experts or PGX from Eugene. I was surprised to learn that they’d been around for 5 years already. I asked Rich (the guy in the pic) to sell me on their product vs. CGC.
Rich said:
PGX is cheaper
PGX has a sturdier container
PGX has faster turn around time (around 17 days)

Something else I noticed from their website is that you don’t’ have to have membership in some collecting organization to get your comics graded either. You just send ‘em in with a check. That’s it. PGX sounds like a comic grader for the rest of us. Now I can get my comics graded and support the local economy. I never considered it before, but for some of my older books I just might do it.


Stan Sakai

Finally we get to Stan Sakai. You know what? Everybody always has these stories about what a nice guy Stan is and yes he is very nice guy, but all these stories gave me the impression that he was some sort of comic book saint that blessed the geeky fans that show up at conventions. Well, after meeting him I’m here to say that he’s just a regular guy. He’s a little quiet when approached for an autograph (or maybe that was because I got a little too personal in my enthusiasm to meet him) but get him in front of an audience and Stan is very lively. In fact, I’d say Stan Sakai is a very funny man. He was letting the zingers fly constantly during his talk and the audience was cracking up the whole time. It makes sense why he is such a good storyteller, as he has an impeccable sense of timing mixed with a sharp wit.

I had Stan sign four books Usagi Yojimbo vol. one (as it has the rabbit’s first stories), Grasscutter as it adapts Japanese mythology, Travels with Jotaro as it has some nice father son angst, and Space Usagi because it has some of my favorite Usagi art. I was simply expecting an autograph in each book but Stan went to the trouble of drawing a nice sketch in each one. Class act all the way.


Here Stan talks about the origin of the cartoonist, and the modern illustrator’s connection to renaissance artists. (See wikipedia here for more info)



Stan draws his famous rabbit Usagi Yojimbo. Stan said he just drew a rabbit with his ears in a topknot one day and the rest was history.



Murakami Gennosuke, the hard drinking Rhinoceros bounty hunter…



Inukai (Stray Dog) a ruthless bounty hunter that secretly has a soft-spot for an orphanage



The Evil Jei that keeps coming back no matter how many times he's killed.



Stan is set to do a short Samurai Hulk story in the near future and he gave us a sneak peak at what he'll look like.

I wish I had the time to write down all the the fun tidbits that Stan spoke about but his talk was a great way to cap off the day at the comic book show. My SO had a good time too as Usagi Yojimbo's grounding in Japanese myths and pop culture drew her into the whole presentation.

-Swinebread

Friday, April 18, 2008

My New Comics


This week’s best cover is Army of Darkness #8.


The Brave and the Bold #12, DC Comics. Superman and Ultraman together again.…

Army of Darkness #8, Dynamite Entertainment. I love this title.

Cthulhu Tales #1, Boom Studios. 1st issue of the “new” regular series!

Badger Saves the World #5, IDW. Wow I don’t like the cover this time but the homage to Bruce Lee is cool.

War is Hell: the First Flight of the Phantom Eagle #2, Marvel Comics. The colorist is lost.

Iron Man: Legacy of Doom #1 Marvel Comics. Dr. Doom, Tony Stark and Camelot… what else do you want?

The Infinite Horizon #1, Image. I think this is a little late….

The Lone Ranger #11, Dynamite Entertainment. Now this is how your color somebody with a scratchy style.

Red Sonja #32, Dynamite Entertainment. (hear music) Memories…

Bat Lash #2, DC Comics. Better and sadder than I thought…

Trade Paperbacks:
Red Sonja: Travels Dynamite Entertainment. Reprints the Red Sonja one-shots

The Comic Book Holocaust Oh Man this is some nasty stuff, but its funny if you’re a long time comics reader and find south park funny.

-Swinebread

Random Comic Panel




I feel a lot better but I haven't had time to work on my blog. I think the image above sums it up.

Thanks for all the messages of support.

-Swinebread

Tuesday, April 15, 2008

Haven't Been Feeling Well



Sorry I haven't been posting or commenting. I'm under the weather right now... I'll have something on the Portland Comic Book Show soon.

thanks

-Swinebread

Sunday, April 13, 2008

Off to The Portland Comic Show



I'm rushing to get to the comic show today. I'm a big fan of Usagi Yojimbo and his creator Stan Sakai, so it will be really exciting to me him. Plus, there's a whole bunch of other folks I'd like to talk to as well. I'll have full report later.

I would also like to apologize to my fellow bloggers out there as I just haven't been able to be as timely with responses to you comments or visit you sites as much as I would like.

Talk to you-all soon

-Swinebread

Saturday, April 12, 2008

Vampira's Last Interview


The April issue of Rue Morgue contains the last interview ever conducted with the grand dame of horror Vampira.

Just prior to her passing earlier this year, Rue Morgue was fortunate enough to have the final conversation with Maila "Vampira" Nurmi, the world’s first horror host and glamour ghoul. Plus: Her long-time friend Dana Gould paints an intimate portrait of Nurmi from her halcyon years to her golden years, a look at the new Vampira documentary, as well as her last feature film appearance in the Ed Wood-penned I Woke Up Early the Day I Died.


It’s so sad they didn’t record any of her shows for posterity’s sake. I have a chilling feeling that I would have been a huge Vampira fanatic if her TV appearances were available nowadays. Here’s the only bit of video we have. The intro to her show.


There are lots of wonderful pictures of her so that’s something…


What I like most about Vampira, besides her overt goth sexiness (hubba hubba), is that she changed the perception of women in horror. No longer did the members of the “fairer sex” need to be the victims, but they could be the monsters as well. She paved the way for all the other scary gals that came later. If modern horror has a ghoulish godmother Vampira is it. She wasn’t a big star but she should have been.

-Swinebread

Thursday, April 10, 2008

My New Comics


This week’s best cover is Doctor Who Classics #5.


Criminal Macabre: My Demon Baby #4, Dark Horse Comics. Finally…

The Last Defenders #2, Marvel Comics. She-Hulk and some other guys…

Dead of Night #3, Marvel Comics. It’s not Giant-Size, but it’s definitely Man-Thing.

Serenity #2, Dark Horse Comics. Inara, Inara, Inara…

The Un-Men #27, DC Comics. It's getting cancelled...

Doctor Who Classics #5, You know, I had this story from… was it the epic days?

Soleil #1, Marvel Comics. Some free comic.

New-Gen #1, Marvel Comics. Some other free comic.

Trade Paperbacks:
Captain Carrot and the Final Ark Vol. #1, DC Comics. Reprints the mini and few other Zoo crew stories.


-Swinebread

Random Comic book Cover



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Wednesday, April 9, 2008

Coloring Kamandi


It was amazing how much I enjoyed Countdown Special: Kamandi, which reprints issues 1, 10, & 29 from the original Kamandi run in the 1970s. These post–apocalyptic classics were written and drawn by Jack “King” Kirby. I had never read Kamandi: That Last Boy on Earth before (although I wanted to) so it was a real treat. The premise of the story is that some undefined “Great Disaster” has remade the earth. Most Humans have devolved into animals while conversely animals (like tigers, apes and dogs) are intelligent, walk upright, and rule their own empires. The title character is the teenager Kamandi, who adventures across a shattered landscape with his mentor Dr. Canus, and the mutant Ben Boxer. It’s easy to see that Kamandi was heavily influenced by Planet of the Apes, and that it, in turn, informed both Gamma World and Thundarr (which Jack worked on BTW).

Being a post–apocalyptic enthusiast, it makes sense that I would find this enjoyable. I’m even tempted to pick up the new hardcover collections that DC is putting out, and I’ve never been tempted to do that previously. This title really works for me and I like Jack Kirby’s art and storytelling here much more so than his New Gods work. It’s nice to see DC embracing Kamandi again through republishing and by reintegrating him into new storylines. In fact, Kamandi and OMAC (his grandfather) are the only reasons that I’m even remotely interested in the Final Crisis event at all.

When I was reading my copy of Countdown Special: Kamandi, a question struck me: how would Japanese folks respond to the quintessential/classic art style of Jack Kirby? Their experience with comics and their aesthetic tastes are so different I just couldn’t imagine what they might think. Would they like his art? Would they hate it? Could they even relate to it? So I showed some pages to my SO. The exchange went something like this:

Me: “Hey, what do you think of that art in this comic?”
Her: “Hmmm… It’s very busy.”

I thought: “ah, Jack’s dynamic action is too much for her”

Me: “Yeah, this artist is known for his incredible action and powerful figure drawing.”

Her: “the Color is too much, it’s too busy. The background color changes in each panel. It’s distracting”

I thought: “Huh?”

Me: “Ah well, the artist didn’t have anything to do with the color. See, these are comics that originally came out in the ‘70s and…”

But she had lost interest in what I was talking about and went back to reading her book.

That did get me thinking. The bold use of color, which is so common in older comics, was just too visually overpowering for her. She really couldn’t focus on Jack’s art at all. I was kinda stunned but then I remembered that Japanese manga is a black and white medium. The "in-your-face" color had a strong negative impact on her. When for me, it was nearly incidental, particularly because it appeared in a reprint of Kamandi. I recognize that the colorist’s job is much more integrated into the artistic creation of comic books nowadays (computer technology has completely revolutionized the nature of color), but back when Kamandi was first published; it almost seems like an afterthought position. The intent of the coloring process in the days of yore must have been to keep the eyes interested by flashy uses of 4-color shades… whether they matched from panel to panel or not. Looking at the Kamadi pages was such a disharmonious experience for my SO; that the art style didn’t matter at all. For her, the application of color didn’t seem to be thoughtfully considered nor carefully applied. Very interesting. I easily separate Jack’s art from the hues that someone else decided upon, but my SO sees them as one thing. I often have to remind her that American comics are largely a collaborative medium. In the past, my SO has expressed that American comics are too wordy, and bogged down with unnecessary exposition that redundantly describes what’s already visually depicted, but this is the first time she has said anything about color. I guess I gotta’ show her something of Jack’s in black and white to really get her opinion on the his art style. That's sorta' weird for me...



-Swinebread

Monday, April 7, 2008

DC Has To Stop and Marvel Should Too

DC are you listening?


Maybe I'd read Secret Invasion if it had cool sound effects like this:

Nah... it's just glitz...

-Swinebread

What Gay Star Trek Character Are You?







What gay Star Trek character are you? (by Pogo)




You are Seven. Everything to you is new, and you are beginning to experience all aspects of the real world. Love is something that you are willing to experiment with. You may not always understand the proper way to go about things, but nevertheless, people are very attracted to you. You do best with someone who is willing to provide you with guidance. Your lover is Janeway. Chances are, you like older women and scratchy voices.
Take this quiz!









Now That's F***ing Awesome! I'm sure glad I wasn't something like Quark and Dr. Bashir...

-Swinebread

Sunday, April 6, 2008

24-Hour Comics During Portland Comics Month



It was 24-hour comic day on Saturday. I’ve never indulged in this artistic test of endurance but I think it’s a fantastic idea. The concept is to create a complete comic book, drawn and inked, during a single 24-hour period. The excellent Cosmic Monkey Comics hosted a 24-hour comic event called the 24-Hour Drawpocalypse, so I swung by the store to check out the scene. Andy, the majority owner, was gracious enough to let me snap a few shots of the artists hard at work. I got there about 7:30 PM.They had been working since 10 AM, so the gang only had only 14 and half hours to go!

here they are drawing their stories. Nobody looked tired yet. That's Jim Valentino on the left with the star on his chest. I loved his Guardians of the Galaxy series. Maybe I'll have him sign my copy of the GOTG trade at the Stumptown Comics Fest... If I don't have to work that weekend.

One of the guys drawing away.

David Chelsea

David Chelsea's inking his work. He was using an interesting diagonally lined paper to create his comic.

I didn't ask this guy his name but I liked what I saw of his work. (following pic has a close-up)


I climbed the stairs to get this shot. I felt bad because they creaked loudly and everybody stared at me, and wondered what I was doing.

The Wacky and Wild owners of Cosmic Monkey Comics, Andy Johnson and Adam Healy.



Part of the time I was in the Cosmic Monkey, I roamed the trade paperback section, which is fantabulous by the way, when a 20 something gal asked Adam Healy who Jack Kirby was. He directed her to the Jack Kirby shelf and explained that he was called “King” because he was an innovator when comic books first stared out and that he co-created many famous characters like the Fantastic Four, X-Men, and Captain America. He handed her a copy of a Twomorrows book about Jack filled with tons of his art, and she began to leaf through it. In the picture above you can see her on the left looking through the book. I was intrigued. Why was this gal suddenly interested in Jack? I guess it makes sense that if you don’t read superhero comics you wouldn’t know who he was but what was going on? In a stealthy way, I followed her as she walked back to her friend/boyfriend (that was participating in the 24-comic event) and talked to him about Jack. I was trying to eavesdrop, to figure out her motivations, when the guy she was talking to mentioned the Mayor of Portland declared that April was Portland Comics Month. Was this true? Well sure enough when I got home and did a net search I discovered that Tom Potter did indeed make this pronouncement.
The Stumptown Comics Foundation is delighted to announce that later today, Mayor Tom Potter will declare this April Portland Comics Month. The proclamation officially recognizes both the cultural importance and creative influence of this vibrant art form on the entire city.

Portland has deep roots in the comic-book publishing world, as it is home to scores of comics industry professionals and to three of the nation's most prominent independent comics publishers (Dark Horse Comics, Oni Press, and Top Shelf Productions). Moreover, the local comics community has seen sizable growth in the past few years, further bolstering the Rose City's defining ties to the creative arts and industries.
To champion and support Portland Comics Month, the Stumptown Comics Foundation has catalogued a staggering number of comics-related events in the Portland metro area for the entire month of April.
(From here).

How amazing is that. I’ve been telling folks for years how special and unique the comic’s scene is in Portland and now through the hard work of many folks, including the Stumptown Comics Foundation, it’s official.

I never did find out why this gal became interested in Jack Kirby, maybe she’s an indie creator and she was trying to check out the origins of mainstream comics. Or perhaps she was trying to enter the world of her friend/boyfriend. I dunno… what I really wanted to know was her opinion of Jack's art. Oh well, if I hadn’t tried to listen in, I wouldn’t have learned it was Portland Comics Month.

I’m glad I popped into Cosmic Monkey Comics!


-Swinebread

Charlton Heston Dead at 83




I couldn't stand Mr. Heston's politics but he was a very good actor. When I watch Chuck’s films, it's one of the few times that I can completely divorce a character from the actor and his obnoxious views. So, I gotta’ give props for his talent, plus he starred in three fantastic sci-fi films, one them being Planet of the Apes, which happens to be one of my all-time favorites.

So long Chuck, I’ll remember you because of your many great movies and the fact that there was a time when you supported civil rights.



I put no link, news of his death is all over the net.


-Swinebread

Saturday, April 5, 2008

BSG Comics


A lot of folks have been antsy for more BSG, and now that the last season is airing they’re getting their fix, but what does one do in the mean time? Well, I’ve been fulfilling my needs with the Battlestar Galactica comics by Dynamite Entertainment. The Battlestar Galactica: Origins title, which just finished its Dr. Baltar arc, was especially wonderful for filling in a lot of nice tidbits of Gaius’ back-story. What’s really cool is that folks involved in the production of the BSG show are actually working on the BSG comic books. They have inside information about the plot and will weave it into the stories they’re writing. Newsarama just finished up a five-part Q&A on Dynamite’s BSG efforts.

Part I (SEAMUS FAHE interview about his work on the show and his 4-part BSG Origins comic that delves into Gaius and number 6) Here

Part II (ROBERT NAPTON on his BSG Origins comic on Bill Adama, his thoughts on both of BSG incarnations and a Classic BSG one-shot) Here

Part III (BRANDON JERWA on BSG Season Zero set 2 years before the star of the series) Here

Part IV (OSHUA ORTEGA & ERIC NYLUND on their title Cylon War, which covers the first war between humans and cylons and it’s aftereffects) Here

PART V (Discussion of BSG in general, of a Helo/Kara three-part mini and a mini-series that deals with the final five cylons) Here

Not getting enough BSG? The comic just might give you more of that naturalistic sci-fi you’re looking for.

-Swinebread

Friday, April 4, 2008

Battlestar Galactica Season 4 Tonight


The beginning of the end is here. The final season of Battlestar Galactica at 10 P.M. on SciFi.

Here's a few vids

Battlestar Galactica Season 4 Promo



Battlestar Galactica: What the Frak is Going On? (season 1 to season 3 recap)



Battlestar Galactica Season 4 Preview (minor spoilers)


-Swinebread

Thursday, April 3, 2008

Jim Mooney is Gone, R.I.P.

Jim draws himself into a Spidey comic

The very prolific comic artist, Jim Mooney has died this week. It’s amazing when you think about how many stories he worked on from the Golden Age up through the Bronze Age. He’s probably most famous for his time on Supergirl, but because he was very productive and reliable, he penciled and inked many titles for the big two. He had a nice clean style, and as an inker, he really made fellow artist’s work shine. For me, Mooney is best remembered as thee “back issue” artist. I was always buying up copies of the various Spiderman titles he worked on. A good Spectacular SpiderMan by Mooney was not to be missed. A significant amount of his output is collected in trades and hardcovers.

I love his work. When I say, “I wish comics were drawn like they used to be,” Jim Mooney’s art is what I’m talking about. He had a great run, and he’s left us with a remarkable legacy.



…With a nod to Heidi Meeley’s post about Mooney death for cluing me in.

-Swinebread

Wednesday, April 2, 2008

My New Comics


This week’s best cover is Omega the Unknown #7. It's got a nice indie-retro-silkscreen thing going on.


The Twelve #4, Marvel Comics. Hey, I think Black Widow is into chicks.

Countdown Special: Kamandi #1, DC Comics. Jack Kirby reprints from Kamandi numbers 1, 10, 29.

Zorro #2, Dynamite Entertainment. The origin continues!

Anna Mercury #1, Avatar. Warren Ellis is at it again.

North Wind #4, Boom Studios. Post-Apocalyptic goodness freezes on.

The Dark Tower: The Long Road Home #2, Marvel Comics. Scary art in this one.

The Walking Dead #48, Image. the violent climax!

Jonah Hex #30, DC Comics. Blood gushing fun.

Omega the Unknown #7, Marvel Comics. It's unknowable...

Project SuperPowers #2, The story better be up to Alex Ross' art designs.


-Swinebread

Tuesday, April 1, 2008

Some Great Alan Moore Vids

Alan Moore on Watchmen (spoilers!)


Alan Moore on Movies adapted from his comics


Alan Moore on fame


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I always loved Marvel’s What If series. It seemed anything was possible in those comics.

Here’s one of my favorite stories from issue # 17




-Swinebread